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		<title>Comment on Non-conforming ordinance help&#8230;. by Rick Pearson</title>
		<link>http://www.mnapa.com/blog/?p=117&#038;cpage=1#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The City of Robbinsdale has a non-conforming use permit.  The zoning ordinance is online - see Section 510.081.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City of Robbinsdale has a non-conforming use permit.  The zoning ordinance is online &#8211; see Section 510.081.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Electronic Sign Ordinance Question by Ken Ondich</title>
		<link>http://www.mnapa.com/blog/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Ondich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan,

We have some provisions in our current Zoning Ordinance Section 718 for Signs specific to Electronic Variable Message Signs.  They are only permitted in our B-2 Community Commercial, B-3 Highway Commercial and I-1 Light Industrial Districts.  We do not permit them in the B-1 Downtown district.  They are also limited to one static message per 5 second interval.  It&#039;s not the greatest regulations on them, but it has kept out some obnoxious ones in the past couple of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan,</p>
<p>We have some provisions in our current Zoning Ordinance Section 718 for Signs specific to Electronic Variable Message Signs.  They are only permitted in our B-2 Community Commercial, B-3 Highway Commercial and I-1 Light Industrial Districts.  We do not permit them in the B-1 Downtown district.  They are also limited to one static message per 5 second interval.  It&#8217;s not the greatest regulations on them, but it has kept out some obnoxious ones in the past couple of years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Electronic Sign Ordinance Question by Greg Kruschke</title>
		<link>http://www.mnapa.com/blog/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Kruschke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have an ordinance that has been in place for around 5 years that is available on our website.  We have had to make a few tweaks since then but it seems to work well overall.  I also have some additional items from our research on the item if you would like.  Contact me and I can arrange to get it to you.  My phone is 507-333-0350 or gkruschke@ci.faribault.mn.us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have an ordinance that has been in place for around 5 years that is available on our website.  We have had to make a few tweaks since then but it seems to work well overall.  I also have some additional items from our research on the item if you would like.  Contact me and I can arrange to get it to you.  My phone is 507-333-0350 or <a href="mailto:gkruschke@ci.faribault.mn.us">gkruschke@ci.faribault.mn.us</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Non-conforming ordinance help&#8230;. by Kristie Leshovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.mnapa.com/blog/?p=117&#038;cpage=1#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristie Leshovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moorhead City Code includes the following provisions for expansion of non-conformities:

Nonconformities: An addition to a lawfully established structure which because of a change in the setback requirements is not in conformance with the current requirements may be added to, even if the addition violates the current setback requirements, provided that:

a. The addition does not encroach across a property line.

b. The addition does not extend into the applicable yard requirement greater than the existing structure.

c. The length of the addition may not exceed the length of that part of the existing structure that is in violation of the current setback requirement or twenty feet (20&#039;), whichever is less. 

We defer to MN Statutes 462.357 for rebuilding of structures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moorhead City Code includes the following provisions for expansion of non-conformities:</p>
<p>Nonconformities: An addition to a lawfully established structure which because of a change in the setback requirements is not in conformance with the current requirements may be added to, even if the addition violates the current setback requirements, provided that:</p>
<p>a. The addition does not encroach across a property line.</p>
<p>b. The addition does not extend into the applicable yard requirement greater than the existing structure.</p>
<p>c. The length of the addition may not exceed the length of that part of the existing structure that is in violation of the current setback requirement or twenty feet (20&#8242;), whichever is less. </p>
<p>We defer to MN Statutes 462.357 for rebuilding of structures.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Non-conforming ordinance help&#8230;. by Steve Grittman</title>
		<link>http://www.mnapa.com/blog/?p=117&#038;cpage=1#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Grittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan -

Little Canada has an entry in their non-conforming section that provides a simple allowance for the expansion of non-conforming residential uses.  The two clauses read as follows:


J. Alterations may be made to a building containing lawful non-conforming residential units when they will improve the livability thereof, provided they will not increase the number of dwelling units or the non-conformity.

K. Non-conforming, non-income producing, residential units may be expanded to improve livability as a conditional use, provided that the non-conformity of the structure will not be increased.

The review standard is to &quot;improve livability&quot; in order to qualify for the permit.  Hope this is helpful to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan -</p>
<p>Little Canada has an entry in their non-conforming section that provides a simple allowance for the expansion of non-conforming residential uses.  The two clauses read as follows:</p>
<p>J. Alterations may be made to a building containing lawful non-conforming residential units when they will improve the livability thereof, provided they will not increase the number of dwelling units or the non-conformity.</p>
<p>K. Non-conforming, non-income producing, residential units may be expanded to improve livability as a conditional use, provided that the non-conformity of the structure will not be increased.</p>
<p>The review standard is to &#8220;improve livability&#8221; in order to qualify for the permit.  Hope this is helpful to you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Non-conforming ordinance help&#8230;. by Dusty Finke</title>
		<link>http://www.mnapa.com/blog/?p=117&#038;cpage=1#comment-739</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty Finke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,
The City of Medina has began utilizing Interim Use regulations to do what it seems you are discussing.  In terms of re-building, the updated State Statute is fairly forgiving and allows for replacement of the existing non-conformity.  Obviously, it does not protect expansion.  

Medina has selected certain uses and established them as allowed Interim Uses (for example, existing single family homes in a zone which will allow commercial in future years).  Our language allows certain Interim Uses to continue without requiring a property owner to go through the IUP process (making them approved Interim Uses instead of non-conforming).  The ordinance allows expansion of these Interim Uses, but then requires the property owner to obtain an IUP.  For an example, you can visit our City Code on our website (www.ci.medina.mn.us/facts/code.htm), and look at the Interim Uses in Section 835.

Good luck!

Dusty Finke, City Planner
dusty.finke@ci.medina.mn.us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
The City of Medina has began utilizing Interim Use regulations to do what it seems you are discussing.  In terms of re-building, the updated State Statute is fairly forgiving and allows for replacement of the existing non-conformity.  Obviously, it does not protect expansion.  </p>
<p>Medina has selected certain uses and established them as allowed Interim Uses (for example, existing single family homes in a zone which will allow commercial in future years).  Our language allows certain Interim Uses to continue without requiring a property owner to go through the IUP process (making them approved Interim Uses instead of non-conforming).  The ordinance allows expansion of these Interim Uses, but then requires the property owner to obtain an IUP.  For an example, you can visit our City Code on our website (www.ci.medina.mn.us/facts/code.htm), and look at the Interim Uses in Section 835.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Dusty Finke, City Planner<br />
<a href="mailto:dusty.finke@ci.medina.mn.us">dusty.finke@ci.medina.mn.us</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Duluth Comp. Plan Urgent Reply Needed by Bob Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.mnapa.com/blog/?p=115&#038;cpage=1#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that the question is how best to manage change on Park Point.  The area needs a specific plan for the area past the lift bridge and then some sore of overall diversified zoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the question is how best to manage change on Park Point.  The area needs a specific plan for the area past the lift bridge and then some sore of overall diversified zoning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Duluth Comp. Plan Urgent Reply Needed by Jan Karon</title>
		<link>http://www.mnapa.com/blog/?p=115&#038;cpage=1#comment-737</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Karon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suzanne,
Thanks for the comment. The Planning Department is currently working on the Unified Development Code. There is an &quot;ancient&quot; code in effect, and my understanding is that R-2 is the current zone.
Jan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzanne,<br />
Thanks for the comment. The Planning Department is currently working on the Unified Development Code. There is an &#8220;ancient&#8221; code in effect, and my understanding is that R-2 is the current zone.<br />
Jan</p>
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		<title>Comment on Duluth Comp. Plan Urgent Reply Needed by Suzanne Rhees</title>
		<link>http://www.mnapa.com/blog/?p=115&#038;cpage=1#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne Rhees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan,
When you say &quot;zoned&quot; traditional residential, I believe you mean designated or &quot;guided&quot; as Traditional Neighborhood in the Comprehensive Plan. The issue of consistency between plan and zoning is the key legal question here. Looking at that &quot;TN&quot; classification, it seems that densities are intended to range from 4-8 units/acre, with larger buildings at corners.  Nothing about lodging uses, however, so there may be some inconsistency here. Has the City discussed a Comp Plan amendment along with the zoning change? (Disclosure: I worked on the Comp Plan as part of the consultant team, and before that on the Park Point neighborhood plan, if you remember that one -- around 2003.  But of course, this comment is simply my initial impression based on very limited information!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan,<br />
When you say &#8220;zoned&#8221; traditional residential, I believe you mean designated or &#8220;guided&#8221; as Traditional Neighborhood in the Comprehensive Plan. The issue of consistency between plan and zoning is the key legal question here. Looking at that &#8220;TN&#8221; classification, it seems that densities are intended to range from 4-8 units/acre, with larger buildings at corners.  Nothing about lodging uses, however, so there may be some inconsistency here. Has the City discussed a Comp Plan amendment along with the zoning change? (Disclosure: I worked on the Comp Plan as part of the consultant team, and before that on the Park Point neighborhood plan, if you remember that one &#8212; around 2003.  But of course, this comment is simply my initial impression based on very limited information!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Planning Fee Increase Question by Zach M</title>
		<link>http://www.mnapa.com/blog/?p=95&#038;cpage=1#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fees!
We are in the process of keeping track of the time and money we spend on each petition before the plan commission and appeals board.  Every minute we spend on it.

After a couple of months, it appears that we are undercharging by 50-150%.

We will use this information to propose an increase to the fees.

The reason I use to explain the need to collect fees is pretty simple, if you don&#039;t pay the cost for the services you are receiving, then everybody else in the community is subsidizing you.  That part they don&#039;t mind.  Then I remind them that means they are subsidizing everybody else coming through the system.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fees!<br />
We are in the process of keeping track of the time and money we spend on each petition before the plan commission and appeals board.  Every minute we spend on it.</p>
<p>After a couple of months, it appears that we are undercharging by 50-150%.</p>
<p>We will use this information to propose an increase to the fees.</p>
<p>The reason I use to explain the need to collect fees is pretty simple, if you don&#8217;t pay the cost for the services you are receiving, then everybody else in the community is subsidizing you.  That part they don&#8217;t mind.  Then I remind them that means they are subsidizing everybody else coming through the system.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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